Chevrolet Niva › Logbook › Stationary installation of a winch. Part 1. Metal.
I haven’t made any new entries on ShNivka for almost three months, although something is being done about it every now and then... But then I got some free time and decided to tell you how I installed the winch on my car.
The idea of buying a winch had been brewing for a long time and had matured in my head back in 2017. But then I, wise from the experience of off-road competitions (as a navigator), coped quite well with ambush spots with the help of a hijack and sandtrucks, which traveled with me constantly, however, they are now permanent residents of the car... Later, when there were significantly fewer trips in groups, and There are more and more single trips, and we stopped participating in races and the enthusiasm for competitions diminished, and running with trucks became completely lazy))), I really fully felt the urgent need for a self-extracting mechanism...
Taking into account the low purchase budget and far from racing modes of using the winch, the choice fell on the budget ELECTRIC WINCH with a tractive effort of 12000lbs (in our opinion, around 5.5 tons, which the Chinese, of course, will never fully produce). But it is waterproof))) I bought it back in August 2022 and for almost a year it lay in a box at my work, and at that time I studied the video, read the notes on the drive and tried to “reinvent the wheel” on the topic of how everything it would be smarter and more correct to install it...
When installing a winch on a car, several conditions had to be met: • The installation must be done secretly - under the standard bumper. • The fairlead should be located behind the state. number. • It must be possible to visually control the cable winding. • Both power supply and winding/unwinding must be controlled from the driver’s seat. keys, in addition to standard remote controls.
And although the winch we purchased is not the most powerful, who knows what awaits us ahead... I decided to make the platform and its fastening with a safety margin. And at the same time, strengthen the front side members and eliminate childhood sores in the mounting points of the steering gearbox and pendulum. Although they say that the side members on the Chevrolet are strong and do not need additional reinforcement, I still decided to go the old proven way and strengthen them with pads from the beginning to the mounting points of the steering mechanisms, inclusive... For this:
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Portable winch
You don’t have to install a winch at all, but use a portable one. The most popular models of portable winches for Chevrolet Niva are Stokrat SN 4.5 S and Superwinch Winch2GO. The traction is quite sufficient, but you can also increase the traction force using a block. Advantages of a portable winch: versatility - you can pull a car by the front/back, you can pull any car, use the winch on the farm or lend it to a neighbor. In addition, you can make a portable winch yourself to suit any requirements; everything necessary for this (platform, wires, connectors, fasteners) can be purchased at Elektrolebedka.ru.
Stationary winch
If you often use the Chevy Niva to conquer off-road terrain, and you have to use a winch quite often, we definitely recommend installing a permanent winch. To install it in a standard bumper, you will need to make a platform. You can easily find how to do this on the Internet. It is recommended to install lightweight winches on the Chevrolet Niva. Below we offer you 3 winches that are ideal for installation according to all criteria. In most cases, a winch suitable for civil use is the T-MAX ATW 6000.
Electric winch T-MAX ATW-6000 OFF-ROAD Improved
The lightest winch is only 10-12 kg with a thrust of 6000lbs, sufficient for a Chevrolet Niva
Electric winch T-MAX EW-6500 OFF-ROAD Improved
Powerful and fast winch - for regular use and for competitions
Winch pull | 6500 lbs / 2950 kg |
Winch weight | 30 kg |
Engine power | 5.5 hp |
Rope length | 24 meters |
No load speed (1 layer) | 11 m/min |
Speed at 6000lbs | 2.8 m/min |
Rope type | Steel |
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This winch has a powerful 5.5 HP motor. and a fast gearbox of 172:1 - which in total provides it with a speed (at maximum load) 2 times higher than that of the T-MAX ATW 6000 winch. The fast and powerful winch will confidently pull Shnivy out of any mud. However, this model weighs 30 kg. We recommend installing the T-max 6500 if the winch is expected to be used very often or the car is being prepared for participation in competitions.
Electric winch STOKRAT SD 8.0 SSW
For the Chevrolet Niva with serious off-road preparation - power in a compact package.
Winch pull | 8000 lbs / 3630 kg |
Winch weight | 31 kg |
Engine power | 5.5 hp |
Rope length | 24 meters |
No load speed (1 layer) | 10.8 m/min |
Speed at 6000lbs | 2.8 m/min |
Rope type | Steel |
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Comments 54
Do-it-yourself installation of a stove on a VAZ-2108 field.
Just don’t buy a cheap Chinese Vinch. You'll throw away your money. Their current consumption is crazy, but I generally keep quiet about quality. Also keep in mind that the Chinese Winch 9000 is not even 6000. The characteristics are simply overstated...
I decided to take 4x4 12000.
Well, in tourism we very well practice a regular chain hoist with a JET-A type handle with a 4.5 m long chain. She jerks instantly, she doesn’t give a damn about the dirt. The gearbox on the lever is quite traction, and if one is accelerating in the car, and the other is pulling the swan, then with the proper skill everything can be done very quickly. Also, don’t forget that if you hang the same camp with a steel cable, then it’s +50 kg on the front and add the structure of the bumper, braces and platform there.
We have already pulled out the Niva using a hand winch. One is dragging like a swan, and the other is accelerating!
ideal 9.5 comeup or kingone, 6500 will not be enough, although it depends on how you plan to plant. But there is always not enough winch at the most necessary moment and you always want it to move faster =) Don’t just put the swan in the lounge on the field, be sure to stretch the platform onto the beam, then it will stand forever. China Winch is also an option if you use it very rarely. But unlike the camap, having to sort it out once a year, regardless of whether it was shaking or not, the water and other things that get into it will do their job for both the motor and the gearbox.
Understood! Thanks for the info. Can you tell me more about the mounting and platform? I would like to avoid mistakes in advance.
No one is going to argue with you, and no one knows what you are comparing it to. And no one calls your statements bullshit. Be your own opinion.
If you don’t want to fit in additional equipment, then throw the usual manual one in the trunk. For an ordinary person, in the field behind his back.
This one lies in the UAZ, about 2 times it swans foxed 1-2 meters for about 15 minutes
Chinese winch 6000 More than for you
But won't he be weak?
What kind of wheels do you have?*
I just bought a Niva last summer. First of all, I want to install a winch. The tires are currently Kama Flame.
Maybe in time you will understand the commandment: when the car is not prepared, the winch turns from a means of rescue into a means of transportation.
I told you that I only bought a car last summer. And I’m not a millionaire to buy everything at once. Here I asked for advice about the winch, and not about tires and car preparation.
I answered you. Good luck in your choice. I told you my word, and then do as you wish!
Electric Winch 6000 LBS
Let's start with the most affordable winch, sufficient in terms of traction force for the Chevrolet Niva. Electric Winch winches are very popular in our country, due to their low price, high declared characteristics and the presence of radio control included with the winch. This is the only winch that is not covered by a warranty in our store. We only guarantee that the winch is initially in working order, and we eliminate deficiencies only if they are identified at the stage of installation of the winch.
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State duty and how to pay
The amount of the state duty is established by law (Article 333.33, paragraph 46 of the Tax Code of the Russian Federation). The amount of payment to the state budget is 800 rubles. For making an additional entry in the PTS, the state duty is 350 rubles. in accordance with paragraph 38 of the same article.
You can pay the fee:
- in person through the cash desk of any bank, for this you need to take the details to pay the fee from the traffic police;
- in the self-service terminal using the details;
- through the State Services website. To do this, you need to register on the portal, create a personal account, select the desired service by the name of the department - traffic police and make a payment. This method allows you to get a 30% discount when paying the state fee.
▷ Which winch to put on the Niva: calculation of traction, installation location, nuances
When choosing a winch for the Niva, we pay attention to a lot of technical data and get lost in them. We do not take into account the hydraulic and mechanical type of winch, since these models are for real “gourmets”.
Winch traction forces: calculating power
Winch installation location
It is better to install a winch on the Niva along with a new front bumper, but there are no restrictions. Experts recommend first checking the fasteners with actual holes on the machine body. Often, an inexperienced owner purchases an unsuitable model. Installation inside the bumper is impossible due to the size and weight of the winch, only on the outer perimeter.
The following models have proven themselves on the positive side: T-Max, Stokrat, Come Up, Superwinch, Warn, Powerwinch PW6000E. Long service life, good build quality, components, price-quality ratio.
For a Niva SUV, choose a winch with a weight of no more than 10 - 12 kg. Excess weight will cause the front of the car to roll: it will increase the load on the front suspension, chassis, and transmission. Rubber seals, bushings, and silent blocks will wear out faster, leading to unplanned expenses.
Which winch should I put on the Niva, Niva Chevrolet?
To finally determine the type of winch for the Niva, select a modification: stationary or mobile (portable).
Obviously, portable ones are not as strong as stationary ones, but they are also in demand along with other modifications.
What type of winch is needed for the field?
Winch cost
The cost of equipment directly depends on modifications and technical characteristics. In each case, check the cost with store managers.
Beware of fakes, do not buy accessories at spontaneous markets. Always ask for a product quality certificate. If you do not have the skills to install power equipment, seek help from specialist auto repair shops. Bezdor4x4 online store consultants are ready to answer questions 24/7.
Repair features
Repair of the main functional components of the SUV in question has the following features.
Engine
Since the car is specific and the design is not complicated, there will be no surprises in terms of repairs.
Changing the air filter and oil is extremely simple. As for the oil filter, it is located on the side of the block, so it is not easy to get to it. Stock up on 3.75 liters of oil and a hexagon. There is no need even for a lift or a pit, since the ground clearance is quite high. Raising the car makes sense only if there is serious crankcase protection.
A burst expansion tank can also become a problem, and this happens due to its unfortunate shape. Inconsistent lid quality also aggravates the situation.
A burst oil supply tube can cause failure of the hydraulic timing chain tensioner. A clanging metallic sound will be the first sign of such a problem.
In general, the layout for independent implementation of repair and maintenance work under the hood is quite convenient. The only difficulty may be removing the starter, while adding fluid, replacing the air filter or lamps will not create problems at all.
Transmission and chassis
When buying a Niva that is not the first freshness, pay attention to the presence of increased vibrations if the previous owner had the habit of driving without one cardan. In this case, the transfer case supports may not be suitable.
In general, the statistics on gearbox breakdowns are quite meager, which indicates the decent reliability of this unit, but the same cannot be said about the clutch. All cylinders, both worker and main, must be replaced. It is noteworthy that it is better to change the mechanism completely than to follow the lead of the green toad and buy a repair kit.
As for changing the oil in gearboxes and gearboxes, it should be the same - 75w-90, and the volumes are as follows:
- 1.3 l for the rear axle;
- 1.15 l for the front gearbox;
- 0.79 l for transfer case;
- 1.6 l for gearbox.
Wheel bearings are a weak point and must be replaced up to 3 thousand kilometers. The front suspension silent blocks and levers are not protected in any way, and in the case of SUVs, unsuccessful tests can lead to serious repairs.
Winches
Sale and installation of winches for Niva and Chevrolet Niva. If you are not an athlete, you just need the opportunity to get to a certain place YOURSELF - you don’t really need to lift the car or spend a lot of money on off-road training. Install a winch and mud tires on your Niva, and you will gain independence from fellow travelers, from the distance to the nearest tractor, and you will definitely be able to get to where you were going.
Details about installing a winch on a Chevrolet Niva are at the end of the page.
Features of installing a winch on a Chevrolet Niva
Installing a winch on a Niva and a Chevrolet Niva are two completely different technological operations. This is due to the design features of the bumpers and side members of both cars, and as a result, with the varying complexity of integrating the power elements of the winch mounting into their bodies.
There are only three ways to install a winch on a Chevrolet Niva:
the first method not worth the money spent on it. The removable winch fits well on hard ground. But try to install a structure weighing under 30 kg (about how much a removable winch with a platform weighs) when the car has already sunk into the mud and the bracket guides are below its level! You need to insert the platform into the guides and jam them with pins, first aligning the holes on the platform and the bracket. Without diving into the mud, you won't be able to do this.
Then, you will still need to open the hood, connect the power wires, then insert the remote control into the connector of the solenoid block. Only now you can unwind the rope and winch! Ready. No, no, in advance, before the ambush, you won’t be able to put everything in place: the platform sticks out 30 cm forward, making the front overhang simply huge, it will rest against the slightest irregularities in the road, in a word, you won’t be able to pass at all, even where the winch was wouldn't be needed! Believe me, this is knowledge based on personal bitter experience.
Second way. Power bumpers of varying degrees of beauty, strength and correct attachment to the body, suitable for this purpose, are available for sale. The power bumper is a way out for a “combat” vehicle. It is not used every day, appearance is not important, it drives mostly in the mud, and it will never pass a technical inspection “honestly” due to numerous, uncoordinated changes in the design.
What about a Shnivavod who doesn’t go (or almost doesn’t go) to competitions (he’s not a maniac)? Who drives a car around the city every day, but who knows well why he bought himself a car with real, “honest” all-wheel drive and high ground clearance? Who likes to go hunting, fishing, on vacation, or just wherever he wants on weekends? Who doesn’t want to spoil the appearance of the car and doesn’t want to carry an extra 20 kg of iron “on the face”, but nevertheless, he really needs a winch? And who does not want to dive into the mud and pump his arms in order to be able to bring it into working position. For these people we have implemented...
Why the winch should not protrude beyond the bumper line and other installation requirements
If the winch protrudes beyond the bumper line, it is not safe. Such a device violates the dimensions of the car and creates additional external obstacles. A protruding winch, not provided for by the design of the car, can cause an accident if cars do not keep their distance while driving. In addition, a protruding structural element of a machine can touch neighboring cars, road structures, injure pedestrians, etc.
The following requirements must be met when installing the winch:
- reliable fastening of the winch must be done using standard fasteners;
- the winch is allowed to protrude beyond the front edge of the bumper, provided that it is covered with a protective element that has a radius of curvature greater than 2.5 mm.
When installing the winch, the following must be considered:
- traction forces;
- installation location: front, middle, side, rear;
- selection of drive by type: electromechanical, electrohydraulic, mechanical. The most preferable for installation are winches equipped with a hydraulic drive, which is associated with their ease of control;
You should also follow the following recommendations and requirements:
- During operation of the winch, the load on the frame, axles, and suspension should not exceed the permissible values for a particular type of vehicle, especially when the winch pull is directed at an angle relative to the longitudinal axis of the vehicle.
- It is possible to install a device that limits the traction force of the winch automatically depending on the direction of traction.
- Regardless of the direction of traction, it is necessary to create the optimal direction of the cable during its movement, to provide for a minimum number of direction changes when laying the cable.
- Equipping a car with a winch should not affect the operation of other car units.
- The input shaft rotation speed for a mechanical winch with a worm drive must be less than the permissible level (up to 2,000 rpm). This indicator must be used as a guide when selecting the gear ratio of the power take-off mechanism. The minimum torque must be assessed taking into account the low efficiency of the worm gear.
Installation of a removable winch on a Chevy Niva (Kas) - 5 Dorog.ru
At this point the spar sheet has a maximum thickness of approximately 4mm!
Manual winch Frame 1.5T for Chevrolet Niva. Chevrolet Niva in the mud
The third method can most often be implemented in a workshop that provides tuning services.
Purpose and features of the winch for the Chevrolet Niva.
In addition, the price is the cost of rubles.
Initially, the front bumper and metal protective plate are removed. In ascending order I reached the gas burner.
Installing a winch on a Chevrolet Niva Conclusion Fishermen, hunters and travelers who often have to travel in off-road conditions use a winch quite often. Its presence inspires confidence in the driver and helps to find a way out of a variety of emergency situations.
Installing such a mechanism is not difficult. All that remains is to drill one, the most time-consuming and critical hole on each side member.
People's experience in installing this site
You need to drill from the inside of the engine compartment. The space there does not allow the use of a conventional drill. I drilled first with a small battery and thin drill, then with an angle drill. You can use the angle attachment on a regular drill. When drilling, I had to remove the power steering pulley so it wouldn't interfere.
I’m trying it on to roughly understand what difficulties I’ll have to face, the first ambush - without a good sledgehammer it doesn’t want to fit between the side members, the difference is a millimeter. But it seems to fit, so I continue - I open the spar. If anyone is interested, this is what the spar looks like inside: The procedure is best done on Service station, since it is necessary to remove the bumper and make a special hole in it for the cable to exit. It is also important to install a winch with a synthetic cable, because steel cable can damage the radiator when wound back onto the reel.
Installing a winch on a Chevrolet Niva Since the most popular and effective is the electric winch, we will take it as a basis and install it on the car. Initially, we decide on how the installation will be carried out.
A more rational method is to install it on the inside of the bumper, mounted on a special bracket. For these people, we have implemented the Niva Tech Center, which offers its own development for sale and installation: The bracket is suitable for cars with and without air conditioning. On the winch it is necessary to use only synthetic metal cable; if it is wound on one side of the reel it can damage the radiator.
Among the disadvantages of this winch is the low speed of rewinding the cable; this parameter can be critical for athletes. In addition, it is impossible to work with the engine turned off; One pump in the power steering is often not enough for the simultaneous operation of this power steering and the winch. An electric winch is powered by an electric motor powered by the vehicle's power supply. Today this is a widespread type of winches for Niva Chevrolet SUVs.
Such winches are distinguished by their simple design, convenient use and ease of installation, as well as the ability to operate when the engine is turned off.
Tinned the ends and soldered them into the tips.
Options for winch platforms on a Chevrolet Niva
I got normal wires to the winch. We energize the power wires and check the operation of the winch. So, not a single element of the winch protrudes beyond the plane of the extreme point of the bumper. At this stage, this shnivas threw a specific pig at me.
In order to remove the gearbox, it is necessary to lift out the axle shafts. If the right one came out with the first blow of the reverse hammer, then the left axle shaft took three days to be removed. Karl, this infection drank my blood for three days... I spent all my chemical waste on a soured bearing. In ascending order I reached the gas burner.
Installing a winch on a Chevrolet Niva with your own hands
Owners of off-road vehicles who practice driving over rough terrain know how having a winch can sometimes help out. Those who drive Niva and Niva Chevrolet cars often install a winch on the bumper.
It can help if:
Therefore, installing a winch on a Niva or Chevy is a pressing issue for many owners of such cars. To solve this problem, you can contact a car service or try to do this work yourself. In fact, there are no difficulties here - you just need to have some skills in handling tools and materials.
You should know that the installation of a winch on a Niva and a Chevy is different. Chevrolet has some differences that should be taken into account when performing work.
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People's experience in installing this site
A bracket with a platform for a winch from Niva777 is the most popular option for a platform for permanent installation of a winch on a Chevrolet Niva. You can easily find reviews and descriptions of the bracket installation process on forums and Internet communities. Installation is carried out in a garage. Here are some of them:
Owner of Chevy Niva, Alexander Lyugaev aka gumunkulus, 39 years old, Inta (Komi district)
Owner of Chevy Niva, Roman Isaev, 29 years old, Samara
A similar platform was installed, but with a support for the jack. A very detailed description of the site installation process with photographs in four volumes! Crash test of the site was carried out
How to install a winch on a Niva
Installing a winch on a Niva is a series of simple operations. However, first you need to take into account that the standard bumper is too weak for this. This is an ordinary beam made of duralumin, which is mounted on brackets.
Therefore, in order for the structure to be durable, you need to remove the standard bumper and install a power bumper instead - one that will be able to withstand loads.
So, we install a reinforced bumper, and then proceed according to the following algorithm: